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<h1 style="text-align: center;">what happens to 'older' developers?</h1>
<h2>[WHAT]</h2>
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<li><strong>] A recent post on hn about&nbsp;<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7372997" target="_blank">what happens to older developers</a> caught me eye and garnered a fair bit of attention(front page)</strong></li>
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<li>]&nbsp;by:JeffJenkins comments:(357+) points: 511</li>
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<li><strong>]&nbsp;Jeff&nbsp;&nbsp;asks what happens to programmers (in the workplace)&nbsp;when they get older, or more specifically ...</strong></li>
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<li>] Is there a plateau in pay?</li>
<li>] Is there a drop in pay switching jobs after a certain number of years experience because places are looking for 5+ instead of 20+?</li>
<li>] Are older devs not looking for new jobs because they have families and want more stability/are focussed elsewhere?</li>
<li>] Is becoming a specialist rather than a generalist the answer?</li>
<li>] what are you doing at your job?</li>
<li>] What are the older people in your workplace doing?</li>
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<li><strong>]&nbsp;A few days later a&nbsp;RESPONSE POST: to&nbsp;<a href="http://christfollower.me/D140313ADVICE" target="_blank">what happens to older developers</a>&nbsp;appeared</strong></li>
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<li>] by:dsirijus <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7427542" target="_blank">comments:</a>(376+), points:334</li>
<li>] another post, by a self proclaimed 'old coder', that responds in some detail to the questions asked by the OP</li>
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<li><strong>] the 2nd post&nbsp;is from an older developer, who is struggling with multiple issues</strong></li>
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<li>] transient -&nbsp;</li>
<li>] personal issues -</li>
<li>] medical issues -&nbsp;</li>
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<li><strong>] he seems to have some fairly extensive experience</strong></li>
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<li>] OS created/maintains his own&nbsp;linux distro geared towards CLI engineers,&nbsp;selected, patched, built, integrated, and learned about 1,800 packages</li>
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<li><strong>] he has a great education</strong></li>
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<li>] double major&nbsp;@berkely in /math and /cs&nbsp;</li>
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<li><strong>] the COMMENTORS on hn&nbsp;- provide lots of advice on ...</strong></li>
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<li><strong>] re - doing his resume,</strong></li>
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<li>] what to include,</li>
<li>] what not to include ( reason for leaving )</li>
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<li><strong>] cleaning up his&nbsp;online presence</strong></li>
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<li>] remove your potentially&nbsp;'negative' personal identity issues</li>
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<li><strong>] promote the "generification" of his persona</strong></li>
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<li>] dont take about your personal issues</li>
<li>] dont blog on a site like "christfollower.com" b/c it makes religous implications</li>
<li>] dont brand yourself as 'old coder'</li>
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<li>] and point out his personal issues</li>
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<li><strong>] one of the first commentors asks "what is wrong with SV when someone with this much experience, has no work</strong></li>
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<li>]</li>
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<li><strong>]&nbsp;the OP's followup post on his blog </strong></li>
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<li>] <a href="http://christfollower.me/D140320TECH" target="_blank">how i got 32k uniques</a>&nbsp; - makes me somewhat question what his personal motives are, is he seeking employment, is he just looking to drive traffic to his blog,</li>
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<h2>[WHY]</h2>
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<li>] som</li>
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<h2>[WHERE]</h2>
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<h2>[WHEN]</h2>
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<h2>[EXAMPLE]</h2>
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<li>] older coder</li>
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<li>not</li>
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<h2>[HOW-TO]</h2>
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<li>]</li>
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<h2>[REFERENCE]</h2>
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<li>] # # - CREATE-article# # (this)</li>
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<h2>[RELATED]</h2>
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<li>] # 5347 -&nbsp;<a href="/view/article?id=5347" target="_blank">unemployable</a>&nbsp;- &nbsp;[collection] by Don Sagrott, founder @sospep.com - a collection of articles on the state of the employment market for older developers. "Ageism" and other issues facing older developers in today's technology industry.</li>
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<li><strong>IN /careers/interview</strong></li>
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<li>] # # -&nbsp;my sv job search</li>
<li>] # # - interview at google</li>
<li>]</li>
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<li><strong>/programmers - hirig</strong></li>
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<li>] # 2610 -&nbsp;the non programming programmer -</li>
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<li><strong>/ +++</strong></li>
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<li>] get that job at google</li>
<li>] so you want to write js for a living</li>
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